Six Paths Naruto blitzes and one taps BOZ Piccolo. All you do is post stupid faces and deny what is true. Your scan literally just further backs my point. Naruto scales to her, which you now conceded flat out twice, Too bad you already conceded it so deal with it, Now give me an actual reason Piccolo wins. - I know but you are making it seem like as if naruto doing most of the fight automatically scales to her when he was using his full power and jutsus to even stand his ground. The seal also needed the two users to make it work. 10 Kaguya Ōtsutsuki. LMAO SO THE ETSB DOESNT REQUIRE CHAKRA NOW? Working together to defeat a common enemy. via: dragonballuniverse.wikia.com. I like how you also forget how she casually blocked the shadow clones like there were nothing. First episode Piccolo is trash to Naruto. You have a clear agenda, and it's transparent. Working together to defeat a common enemy. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Oh wait..you're purposely using canonical feats as a whole for Naruto while limiting DB to manga only feats. And once again, purely off of feats most of the DBZ Manga is featless ironically, so stop using the logic of only feats matter, Him not countering it does not mean he doesn't scale to Kaguya when he was literally capable of fighting her. Hepreviously foughtGanondorf in the 59th episode of Death Battle, Bowser VS Ganon. Not how it works. The point is Naruto doesn't scale to ETSB. Filters. I am just fine. You're a total waste of time. U just conceded the point again that he harmed her and therefore is relative. Kaguya can bust a dimension with her ETSO big enough to at least house planets and moons. And I never said that AP=/= HAX but if someone is relative to her should have his own hax to counter it or stalemate it. The 4th Shinobi World War lasted 6 months and ended the day Naruto killed Kaguya. He was not even able to even stop the ETSB even with the help of Team 7. He was literally stated to be holding back against Sasuke so I don't see your point here. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. That's anime and manga. Variation of Transcendent Force Manipulation. Who knows? So when Naruto wakes up on a strange new world full of gods, aliens, metahumans and magic, he has to figure out his place in the world. Basing Naruto's AP off the ETSO is complete nonsense. And send her to some mountains automatically makes him stronger/better than her? A long and difficult election that will decide the fate of the new student council awaits, as multiple challengers fight for the coveted title of president. In fact both Naruto and Sasuke could've been killed a long time ago. Feats consist of consistently harming her, U have failed to bring up a single point for Piccolo too even after I asked you a few times, therefore I now win via Burden of Rejoinder since you brought no evidence as to why Piccolo even wins, @animefreak1: Please I ain't twisting nothing. Both of them could've been killed if she decided to fire one of her “All ash killing” bone technique. Again he still had the help of team 7 stop making it seem just one sided on his part. After getting serious Kaguya casually killed a clone who should be close to the original power-wise. Shut the hell up with the solar system crap already. I didn't admit that either. Doesn't matter, this is the beginning of the fight, he literally gets stronger throughout the fight and still overpowers her multiple times outright. 07/23/2020 – Adult Swim’s Toonami to Air ‘Special Anime Short’ on Saturday 07/23/2020 – Sentai Filmworks Unveils The Pet Girl of Sakurasou Anime’s English Dub Cast. Deal with it. - I know but you are making it seem like as if naruto doing most of the fight automatically scales to her when he was using his full power and jutsus to even stand his ground. Not strawmaning but you make it seem like he is stronger because you stated that he overpower her via cutting the arm aside from the fact that he only did it once and that's it. Typical. He later returned to battle King … Kaguya was dimensional shifting on him constantly. It says that she used the Divine Tree to absorb chakra from all of the shinobi and create a maximized (極大化) Truthseeker Orb. You literally made a whole thread on dbz vs Naruto n you are arguing for dbz n already had a clear winner in mind. Naruto can't kill him with anything. It shows that kaguya still had more power to overcome the hax something naruto cant lmao. In any case, this sitting duck doesn't scale to ESTB. It makes no sense. User may be vulnerable to powers that affect divine beings. Naruto should be able to dodge all Piccolo's attacks since he's faster especially in reactions. Naruto would have died without the others helping him. Why you so obsessed with naruto vs dbz, Having a argument about naruto as a whole barely being FTL When the ninja dodged proton beams in base as Hokage his Hokage Base is at least 50% SoL. That was his chance to prove it and he suggested sealing her before it's use. In any case, this sitting duck doesn't scale to ETSB. With her dying breath Kaguya hurled Naruto through a portal and into the unknown. The funny thing about it she is not a skill fighter and has no fighting experience. You are an insult to the naruto commnunity. You said I said naruto is stronger, I said he was relative. Wrong, still on panel overpowered her multiple times. The power to have powers from a divine source. Most people might understandably be fuming that anyone can actually be more powerful than Saitama. Naruto Uzumakiis the titular protagonist of the Naruto franchise and one of the titular characters and one of the main supporting characters in the Boruto: Naruto Next Generations anime/manga series. Created to reshape the world, it was a huge mass of chaos. Plus, the thing wasn't even the size of a city. DB relies on 2 feats as I've already pointed out. The point of this arc is teamwork. She didn't need it she used it to replenish her low chakra supply from spamming Amenominaka, 2. Second of all, Naruto isn't even a confirmed moon buster. No he is not, he is not even able to display half of kaguya's abilities. So completely ignoring the concept of AP and that Kaguya was sealed before she could finish? If one of these conditions is met, the Karma from their previous actions returns in … Piccolo destroying the Moon, Kid Buu destroying the Earth ( which he had to regen from ), Also, Toneri split the Moon in half so blatantly false, That not a debunk to Naruto being able to fight Kaguya and harm her. Makes sense to scale him off the TSO. Cool, she still looked unfazed and didnt care about it. It makes no sense. U just conceded the point again that he harmed her and therefore is relative, - Never said he could put her down, just relative, - I never said he never had help, strawman. Both of them could've been killed if she decided to fire one of her “All ash killing” bone technique. That's why it took all of team seven to bring Kaguya down. Black Zetsu even stating forget his chakra, we need to kill him before he beats us/seals us away. @ssjbatdan: Dude you got debunked multiple times n made a whole thread lmfao what kinda debater makes a battle n debates against other people in it ? 1 Goku Wins: The Hakai Method. 1 Also Called 2 Capabilities 3 Applications 4 Variations 5 Associations 6 Limitations 7 Known Users 7.1 Cartoons/Comics 7.2 Anime/Manga/Manhwa 7.3 Video Games 7.4 Web … Whether you believe this attack is planet, solar system, galactic or universal no one scales directly to this attack. Once again by "actual showings" most of the DBZ Manga is fodder. Neither of them wouldn't have known how to react. And once again, ETSO is also a hax, not just a DC attack hence Naruto not countering it. As it states in the guide books the expansive truth seeker orb contains the chakra that kaguya extracts from those trapped in the infinite tsukyomi. The power to manipulate transcendent energy forces. You literally just allowed Naruto all of it's canonical feats while limiting DB to manga. Search up basic debating terminology, that should help, Yes u were. The level and forms of divinity is variable and unique by the user's nature and character of being, thus weaker or stronger users of divinities is ultimately reliant on the user alone. Opposite to Demonic Source. All it does it re-iterate what happened in the Manga, 3. I'm ignoring a feat that never happened lmao, What large planet level feat? Nope. Even when you can't see Him, GOD IS THERE!! Literally no one should scale to Kaguya and especially Expansive Truth Seeking Ball/Truth Seeker Orb during the fight. U already conceded Naruto scaling to Kaguya now multiple times so he scales relative to her AP which was going to nuke her dimension while also ignoring the Hax aspect of the ETSO I keep bringing up so therefore conceding that point too, Even if I steelmanned you on this I still brought up other points, Strawman. When I used the databook it was to explain THAT NONE CAN DISPLAY THIS TYPE OF POWER IN THE ARC OTHER THAN KAGUYA. but you make it seem like he is stronger because you stated that he overpower her via cutting the arm aside from the fact that he only did it once and that's it. Exactly my point, it would be via outside help not via his own power. Imagine having no feats to show for all your wank, So he couldn't counter this and thereby doesn't scale. Regardless of just cutting her was the best he could do faze her. While those here are normal chakra strikes, it's clear Naruto is putting much more effort here than when he was striking against Sasuke, and he still gets overpowered by Kaguya. Yeah only one who doesn't understand how this works here is you lmao. @rdcdesmond: Your "damage control" is pathetic. And too bad for you Naruto has feats too. How is that debunking me in any way? Then someone relative to her should have a means to stop it then. I don't think people really understand just how powerful Kaguya is in comparison to the rest of Naruto characters. @animefreak1: Gonna have to baby you but I am not surprised and like to twist my reasoning. You are trying to make an equivalent of them right now. The seal also needed the two users to make it work. How does DB still come out with better showings despite your agenda here? Him cutting the arm didnt do much. Literally agreed with you multiple times earlier that he wouldn't have won on his own all I argued he was relative. He is voiced by Junko Takeuchi in the Japanese version of the anime, by Maile Flanagan in the English version of the anime, and by Kathryn Feller in the English version ofRock Lee and … I he were a planet buster, he coulda nullified it! Kicking the Truth-Seeking Balls, taking a Chidori unharmed, being able to catch up with Kaguya or simply being able to levitate, the Six Paths Sage Mode is a force to be reckoned with. Conceding to what? Not to be confused with Divine Energy Manipulation. Then why didn't he just counter that with equal power here? Super Bijuu Rasenshuriken which messed her up, And I never said that AP=/= HAX but if someone is relative to her should have his own hax to counter it or stalemate it. Sanji was voiced by Yong Yea and Lee was voiced by Mark Phillips. They won via seal not because of superior power. I said he did most of the work, Naruto has relative AP but the hax aspect can still kill him, U just conceded on him harming her and being relative sadly, multiple times. He literally stated he had to restrict himself to solely Taijutsu because she would just absorb his Ninjutsu, The only times he used Ninjutsu during the fight was, 1. Just showing you how a debate works, She was strong in Shippuden when she was introduced but is literally fodder now in Boruto so your statement holds no weight, Oh wow, showing a scan where Kaguya uses a one shot durability negating hax to kill Naruto clone. Your own scan just debunked you. SO have no idea why you are even bringing it up, Also, like you how stole that argument from reddit, a site known for being shit at scaling and debating, https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/77rsob/scaling_with_kaguya_makes_no_sense_to_me/, Which you failed to prove at all and even conceded to several times, You conceded to Naruto cutting off Kaguya's arm or sending her into a ice mountain via Boil Release via overcoming her durability meaning by default you conceded to Naruto being relative to Kaguya, So I am not going to address these points anymore if you bring them up cause I already won them. People like you have to realize Naruto's Shadow clones are relative to his original in terms of Power and Stats (Think of Naruto's shadow clones fighting multiple Kage-level opponents during the fourth shinobi war and you'll see his Shadow Clones are nothing to play with) and yet Kaguya did this to Naruto's clone. Sanji VS Rock Lee is the 138th episode of DEATH BATTLE!, featuring Vinsmoke Sanji from the One Piece series and Rock Lee from the Naruto series in a battle between powerless powerhouses. Just saying. Just showing you how a debate works.
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