I used X-Treme plated 147gr bullets and have settled on a load of 3.6gr of Titegroup. These are X-treme plated bullets and will be used for a G19 and a Beretta 92FS. I'm shooting an M&P Pro and want to make 130pf. Using bullets from Hornady HPBT-XTP, Speer TMJ-FN. Anywhere in the 3.2-3.6 grain range will work well with Titegroup and the 147gr Berry's. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Subsonic 9mm Suppressed Handgun Load: Titegroup and Berry's 147 Grain Plated Round Nose. Updated 3: I’ve been able to run the Precision Delta’s over a chronograph, as well as changing primers. New to reloading and purchased some Bayou Bullet 147 FP. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. Those 9mm reloads I did? 53 Posts . 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum (147 GR) Handload Data reloading data with 55 loads. They also were very shiny, reloaded fine, and shot great. Ill let you know how they turn out. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pocket (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), 9mm load recipe – plinking/target load – Berry’s bullets, Titegroup powder, I need help – my .223 Rem reloads aren’t working, Minimum Competency for Defensive Pistol – Revisited. Here is my load data: MFS 9x19 Brass CCI 500 Primers 6.5 to 7 grains of Blue Dot Powder 124 RN Berrys Bullets Lee Factory Crimp, light to no crimp applied. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I tried them out today. Hope it help's. I’d say this is turning out to be a nicely proven load. As of this writing I’ve yet to run the Precision Delta through the chronograph, but in general shooting the feel and results are about the same. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Berry's Bullets is a pistol reloaders dream come true, offering great deals on plated pistol bullets in most calibers. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. I want to do some 9mm reloads and I have 115 gr berry's round nose plated bullets and either unique or power pistol powders. I’m going to get started on it now. And of course, it’s run through all my guns and I’ve had nary a hiccup. 3.4 gr. Berry’s doesn’t offer specific load data but suggests using published data for the same caliber and weight jacketed or cast bullet as long as the estimated velocity does not exceed the limit noted on the product label. Change ). I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. I've been shooting this load for a while, and bought a new chronograph, so I didn;t include all of my old data, but it is basically the same as the stuff I have tested earlier this month. If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. Go to Accurate Powders web site. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. All made in the USA and provided with superior customer service. Powders include Winchester, Vihtavuori, Alliant, IMR, Hodgdon, Accurate, Ramshot Over 60 profiles and grain weights of the shooting industry's Superior Plated Bullets. of 5.5 and max of 6.1 for a 9mm FMJ, so you should be fine with a plated bullet. I wanted to add that this ammo has been run through numerous guns without any known hiccups. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is … Ruger SR9 4.1 9mm Win.SPP Titegroup 3.9 MG 124 JHP 1.07 1052 13.3 39 79 F BP:29.91 5 Feet Ruger SR9 4.1 9mm Win.SPP Titegroup 3.8 MG 124 JHP 1.07 1053 12.96 45 51 F BP:30.13 5 FEET Please feel free to post your test loads with Titegroup. Thanks for all of the suggestions. As expected, not a lot of performance change. Updated 2: As you could see in the performance data, this same load recipe was tried out with bullets other than the Berry’s. Click on load data and then click on view centerfire load data edition 5.0. down load. Using bullets from Barnes TAC-XP, Speer GDHP, Sierra FMJ, Speer FMJ, SinterFire, Lead Round Nose, Berry's Bullets HBRN TP, Lead Conical Nose, Hornady HAP, Berry's Bullets RN, … 9 MM Pistol Powders Click on each Powder picture to see detailed explainations, video, load data, shot groupings and more! They fit my mag and chamber, eject without trouble. 2.8 gr. Here is my load data: MFS 9x19 Brass CCI 500 Primers 6.5 to 7 grains of Blue Dot Powder 124 RN Berrys Bullets Lee Factory Crimp, light to no crimp applied. I … I am going to try out some 147 Bayou Bullets with 3.2gr of titegroup. Really soft shooting load and very accurate, very happy with this load. My brother gave me some Titegroup. Become a Load Data member, access over 303,171 load recipies LoadData.com is a powerful search engine that allows you to search an ever-expanding database of loads. I just loaded the last of my bullets from them last night, I've loaded 1500 of their 9mm bullets so far Found his email reply Dan Some customers use Titegroup with good results but most report to much smoke and fouling. I had a one-pound can of Hodgdon Titegroup pistol powder, so I thought I'd work up a load for 9mm. This is probably not the optimum method of working up a load, but it worked for me with 200-grain .45 ACP and 115-grain 9mm loads. My old Production/ESP load was 4.2 gr of Titegroup under a 115gr Extreme RN plated bullet. I've been loading Precision Delta 147s with 3.6gr of titegroup and a 1.15oal. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. I need some help with 9 mm load data. As of this past June I changed to 4.0 gr of Titegroup under a 124 gr Berry's FP (more of a truncated cone profile). I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. It is completely safe to load, as our bullet is constructed out of a soft lead and then plated with copper, which does not cause the pressure spikes that an … Quiet, reliable function, and accurate across the board with my guns. Bullet: Berry’s plated 9mm 115 grain RN DS Primer: Remington 1.5 Small Pistol Cases: Whatever used 9mm cases I have COAL: 1.135″ Powder: Titegroup 4.5 grains The only case prep was cleaning the cases (dry vibratory case tumbler), then of course a resize and decap.… This load chrono's at 1020fps avg. I am using Berry's plated 124 gr RN. All the loads are developed by the staff of Handloader magazine and the archives of … Heard good things about them. They shoot really well but I wanted to give Bayou a try, have heard great things about them. We tried out their 147 gr RN (round nose) 9mm bullets. Recommended by a fellow competitor for slightly cheaper prices. I have a basic starting point, using 125 gr LRN data, found in my trusty Lee's manual. I’ll eventually do more specific testing. I've had good results with their 9mm bullets in several brands of guns, Taurus, Glock, S&W, Sig. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. I'm not in my office/reloading room now, but will try to post the page tomorrow. Titegroup 3.6 @ 1.130 is my go to round avg 980fps Titegroup 3.3 @ 1.19 is 923.7fps Titegroup 3.5 @ 1.125 is 967.1fps Longshot 4.4 @ 1.125 is 933.7fps I thought I had more powders but I don't. Check out the selection of bulk 45 ACP and 9MM bullets for reloading today! I am about to start reloading for my P229. Over 60 profiles and grain weights of the shooting industry's Superior Plated Bullets. Titegroup was one of the powders tested and the author of the piece found 4.5 gr Titegroup gave the best accuracy with 200 grain lead bullets. I tried them side-by-side with some Federal American Eagle factory loads and I couldn’t tell a difference in accuracy, how the ammo fed, how the gun felt, how the brass ejected, how the spent brass looked. The 2000 rounds that I need to reload prior to Tom Givens’ next visit in October? OAL Under 1.158 Over 1.552 If anyone can give me some feedback before I blow up a gun or hurt myself tomorrow it would be much appreciated. I load to an OAL of 1.150 (COL max is 1.160") I'm typically loading a berry's 124 with 4.1grs. of TiteGroup but as all of you are aware powder is hard to come by and need to load with what I have. out of my M&P9 FS 4.25" and 1045fps avg out of the M&P9L 5" both using a KKM barrel. I've been reloading 9mm for about 25 years and made a pretty comprehensive study of bullets, powders, loads, etc. Find what you need in four easy steps. If you can get a copy of Hodgdon's 2013 Annual Reloading guide($8.99), it has an excellent article on reloading 9mm & features TiteGroup & Berry's plated bullets, due to their increased popularity. Primer: Remington 1.5 Small Pistol (I’ve also tried Winchester, Federal, and Wolf small pistol primers and they’ve all worked with about similar results). As long as they cycle fine in … It is completely safe to load, as our bullet is constructed out of a soft lead and then plated with copper, which does not cause the pressure spikes that an oversized FMJ round would. Plus a wide variety of reloading & shooting accessories, and gun maintenance vises. In fact, we were converted to the 147 gr 9mm weight due to the more “push”-like recoil. 5 Accurate No. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 160 loads. 2.8 or 2.9 grain of TG..... test with gun. All Rights Reserved. Discussion Starter • #1 • Sep 10, 2013. The starting load was listed at 3.6 grains for a velocity of 957 fps, and the maximum load was listed at 4.1 grains for 1,057 fps. All of that data is here. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. I have many other various loads. Posted: 2/9/2012 9:23:35 AM EST I used 4.4 grns of Titegroup with both of those bullets. Select your cartridge type from the drop-down list. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. ( Log Out /  ( Log Out /  Here's what I am planning on loading for some test rounds. I don't have my Berry's load data with me but think you will be OK at 5.7. I have about 4 lbs. According to several of my books, 3.8gr is the max load. Both are Berry's plated bullets. I ran about 40 rounds through two of my XD-9’s. Bullet: Berry’s plated 9mm 115 grain RN DS. Is this a safe place to start, considering I have no chronograph.. I get good accuracy, it is quiet, and best of all it is reliable. Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. I'll receive credit towards future inevitable purchases, and you receive 5% off your order! I have used Hornady 115 grain 9mm FMJ RN, and Speer 115 grain 9mm TMJ. Sure it worked in my XD’s, but over the past year or two I’ve had to loan some ammo, a magazine full here or there, to students in classes. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Honestly, it’s been so long since I sat down at the reloading bench… my skills are rusty and I couldn’t say for sure. Order your nutrition products from TrueNutrition.com and use my discount code JCD1044 when you order! Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. 2.8 gr. We tested over 30 powders that can be used for 9MM. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. I tried them out today. Worked just fine. Updated 2: As you could see in the performance data, this same load recipe was tried out with bullets other than the Berry’s. The specific bullet, the specific primer, as you can see (if you trace through all the postings with the load data and chrono results) doesn’t seem to make a whole lot of difference so I go with what’s cheap or available. I am using Berry's plated 124 gr RN. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. This load chrono's at 1020fps avg. I have both Bullseye and Hodgdon CEF Pistol, but I'm thinking the Bullseye will be a better choice. I use 3.4gr of Titegroup under 147gr Precision Delta FMJ at 1.15OAL. As always, YMMV. The only case prep was cleaning the cases (dry vibratory case tumbler), then of course a resize and decap. Berry’s Bullets 9mm 124gr Xtreme Bullets. Titegroup’s unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I am looking to work up a 9mm subsonic load to shoot suppressed: I've loaded several thousand of basically the same combination for my Glock 19 with suppressor. Berry’s doesn’t offer specific load data but suggests using published data for the same caliber and weight jacketed or cast bullet as long as the estimated velocity does not exceed the limit noted on the product label. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. Berry's Mfg sizes our .32 cal, 38 Super, 9mm, 40/10mm and .45 ACP a thousandth larger than the standard FMJ round diameter. Any data would be appreciated. There was a “Pet Loads” article in Handloader magazine about a year ago. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". Updated 4: It’s been almost 2 years since I came up with this recipe, and it’s still working well for me. . Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Thanks for your inputs. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. 1.100 in. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. I have had great luck with Titegroup. Like I did with the Rainier bullets, I'm going to start working up a load for the Berry's in small batches of low loads (like ~4.7 grains of W231) and work upward using my chronograph, noting cycling of all three of my .40 S&W pistols, watching for signs of pressure, etc. I've pretty much settled on 3.4gr for all my suppressed guns. Thanks The two powders I have a bunch of that I want to use up are W231 and SR 4756. I like simple, and it works for all the handgun calibers I load, it also meters well in my powder thrower. Plus a wide variety of reloading & shooting accessories, and gun maintenance vises. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! I know the website says use lead to mid range FMJ data. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Consequently, my general 9mm plinking recipe will now be: Bullet: Precision Delta 9mm 115 grain FMJ ball copper jacket (but all the 9mm 115 grain FMJ/TMJ’s I’ve tried have worked with similar results). Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. I need some help with 9 mm load data. For 231 I used 4.3 gr @ 1.130" OAL. I've used the Raniers, and I pretty much copied data for cast bullets, as the copper coating goes directly over lead and isn't very thick. Those 9mm reloads I did? I try to use a longer than suggested OAL just help with pressures etc. I’m sure if I pulled out a chrono I’d see something. Recently (I’m writing this on 15 June 2010, but this was alluded to in the performance data entry) I’ve moving away from using the Berry’s and instead using 115 grain 9mm FMJ’s from Precision Delta. Berry's Mfg sizes our .32 cal, 38 Super, 9mm, 40/10mm and .45 ACP a thousandth larger than the standard FMJ round diameter. Learn how your comment data is processed. Having a hard time finding load data. Plated bullets, cast bullets, and jacketed bullets are different animals, and will perform differently. Berry's recommends loading their plated bullets with low to mid FMJ data so you're right where you need to be. Plus, while the Berry’s is the cheapest of what I can find locally, the Precision Delta is overall FAR less expensive; and when buying the Precision Delta in large bulk quantities, the price differential is even greater. I have a basic starting point, using 125 gr LRN data… ( Log Out /  They cover most plated bullets including Rainier and Berry. out of my M&P9 FS 4.25" and 1045fps avg out of the M&P9L 5" both using a KKM barrel. I am going to load some test rounds at 3.2, 3.3 & 3.4 grains of Titegroup and seat each weight at 1.140", 1.145" & 1.50" COL. I have both Bullseye and Hodgdon CEF Pistol, but I'm thinking the Bullseye will be a better choice. I used a taper crimp and I know varying case lengths can affect the crimp, but I’m just looking to make a basic plinking/target load that I can shoot in quantity. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. I used a Nosler 124 grain JHP, Winchester cases trimmed to 0.749", CCI #500 primers, and an OAL of 1.140". I’m sure there’s a difference somewhere, but I couldn’t notice. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Freedom is something we must give to others if we wish it for ourselves. It caused too many wasted bullets. My actual used load is 5.3 grains of Unique and it runs my guns fine. As you can see from my data, even 3.8gr of Titegroup, will still be subsonic most of the time (depending on your atmospheric conditions.) Isn't most data for the 147gr in 9mm sub-sonic? I also would like to ask the COL you have settled on. You can also buy the guide if you don't have access to a computer. I am about to start reloading for my P229. There may be a small difference in pressure or velocity, but I personally would not worry about it unless you are near the max load data. OAL Under 1.158 Over 1.552 If anyone can give me some feedback before I blow up a gun or hurt myself tomorrow it would be much appreciated. 3.4 gr. Reloading components I have available: -Berry's 147 grain plated round nose projectiles -Hodgdon Titegroup -CCI 500 and Federal 100 small pistol primers -Mixed headstamp range brass I do not currently have a chronograph available to test with and am looking for input from those that have experience reloading for suppressed shooting. My go to Titegroup Load uses 3.4gr of Titegroup under 147 bullet. A couple of reasons. I am just starting out, I’m using rainier 115gr plated, 4gr titegroup, with cci #500, with a coal of between 1.138 and 1.143, is that too big of gap in the case? Berry's Bullets. Copyright © 1996-2021 AR15.COM LLC. Believe … Does anyone have good load data for 147gr & 160gr 9mm Bayou Bullets using Titegroup powder? ( Log Out /  All made in the USA and provided with superior customer service. First, the Berry’s would have some troubles during reload… I’d go to seat the bullet and the bullet wouldn’t seat right, shaving the side of the bullet or seating in a manner other than straight and centered. looking for any load data for 147gr bullets using using TiteGroup. My old Production/ESP load was 4.2 gr of Titegroup under a 115gr Extreme RN plated bullet. 1.100 in. I didn’t keep track of all the guns, but we see the gamut in classes and I’m unaware of any hiccups. *knocks on wood* This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. Testing TiteGroup powder with 147 Grain Rainier bulletsPistols used:CZ 75 SP01 Smith and Wesson M&P Pro 5 inch Researching my load manuals, I discovered both Western and Hodgdon offer specific data for Berry’s plated bullets. Yes, I’ll chrono things eventually. Anyway, the above seems to work like a charm, or at least Good Enough™. Addendum 6/20 - checked my reloading data last night, showing min. *knocks on wood* As of this past June I changed to 4.0 gr of Titegroup under a 124 gr Berry's FP (more of a truncated cone profile). My conclusion is that a 115 gr. ALL Accurate Nitro 100 NF Accurate No. No trimming, no primer pocket cleaning, nothing like that. I have used Hornady 115 grain 9mm FMJ RN, and Speer 115 grain 9mm TMJ. Of course, if you opt to use it, YMMV. 2 Accurate No. Insert disclaimer here. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. Click "Get Data" to view results.
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